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George's avatar

This is a perfect introduction for your important inquiry. Is the openness of Still, Pollock or Newman akin to that of Tiepolo ceilings ?

In past eras, the inquiry was encapsulated into an established framework both in eastern and western societies. Works of Art, especially the visual ones, were categorized, or loosely organized : genre, landscape, portraits, history/metaphysical.

(TATE London publishes this--"genre is ... after history painting, portraiture, genre painting (scenes of everyday life) and landscape. Still life and landscape were considered lowly because they did not involve human subject matter.") Flowers or dead duck genres along with portraits supplied buyers with a product, often contracted and often priced upon the ingredients, i.e., Cerulean skies cost more. Portraits were bread and butter as recorded documentation of existence and authority. History subjects opened out the very inquiry of our interest, as human drama, ethics and meanings were revealed in actual events, in religious, mythological or allegorical types.

( http://www.visual-arts-cork.com/genres/history-painting.htm ).

Musical Arts had similar demarcations: scerzio, or concerto, requiem.

Literary arts too had groupings, essays, genre novels, like romance or sci-fi, historical novels or plays, like Hamlet or MacBeth, allegorical works, like The Divine Comedy.

Even today, when we go booking in a shop, we see this hierarchy again; the bookshop shelves separate our interests.

Wonderfully ! our contemporary arts explode or melt such typologies: What do we do with the van Gogh landscapes of Cyresses or the Starry Night --- landscapes for sure, but allegorical metaphysics too? , as it now seems to millions of viewers. Or, Moby Dick-- a sea novel or metaphysical inquiry? Millions read both. A Still painting is a landscape, a vision, a scope-up of paint transfigured into an allegory that the artist had the courage to name.

We sit in this undelineated situation of discerning for ourselves what values contemporary works project, how we receive and feel them, how we adjudicate them....How do we discover and then appreciate the meanings that we experience.?

In this regard, the ancient typologies may be more helpful than it might seem to the avanguardista adventurers that we are. The human dilemma of "Judgment of Paris" may offer a potent comparison of meanings found or unfound in our contemporary works.

In brief, the ethical, moral and metaphysical concerns of generations past may instruct us well in our own production, since groupings and standards are now up-to-us to decide. We went 'avant' and we have to bear up to that responsibility and measure up to the generations past, even if we would like to dodge all that.

As we reveal layers of meanings and encode them into our efforts, past achievements can provide a framework. And should !

Thank you Carter... you are creating a valuable document in this sub-stack.

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Christopher Quirk's avatar

John Ashbery wrote in "Self Portrait in a Convex Mirror":

That the history of creation proceeds according to

Stringent laws, and that things

Do get done in this way, but never the things

We set out to accomplish and wanted so desperately

To see come into being

If Newman did not do what he thought he did posit simply that he did do something for those who stand in front of one of his paintings for enough time. (I think of Robert Irwin in this case.) Some internal possibility. Meaning generated within an individual via interaction with an artwork, processed, passed on, absorbed in new form by others. Chaotic and indeterminate, evanescent. Not utopia or what "we set out to accomplish," but interesting and valuable.

A.R. Ammons (from Corson's Inlet):

in the bellies of minnows: orders swallowed,

broken down, transferred through membranes

to strengthen larger orders: but in the large view, no

lines or changeless shapes: the working in and out, together

and against, of millions of events: this,

so that I make

no form of

formlessness:

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